INTJ

INTJ - The Mastermind Personality Type

INTJs have a thirst for knowledge and a passion for improvement. Constantly working to better themselves, they are often perfectionists. INTJs are also focused on finding ways to improve processes, always open to possibilities and new ideas. They enjoy taking the time to truly understand ideas or systems, and using their analytical skills to solve complex problems. INTJs often have a broad vision for what is best for an organization, and are driven to implement these ideas.

Although quite creative and open to new ideas, INTJs often process information internally, sharing their inner thoughts only with those they trust. Without being able to observe the INTJs consideration of different ideas and theories, some may view their clearly stated opinions and decisive action as stubbornness. The typical INTJ, however, is always willing to consider other points of view and information and change their mind, when warranted.

INTJs prefer structure and order, and expect others to follow the rules and procedures. Once committed, INTJs go to great lengths to fulfill their responsibilities and typically can be trusted to get the job done. Independent and forward-thinking, INTJs tend to be visionaries and are often found in leadership positions where they can apply their well-developed organizational skills to systems and people. Typically confident in their abilities and their insights, INTJs often have a unique ability to clearly and concisely express their vision and goals.

INTJ Type Dynamics

The core of the INTJ personality type is Introverted Intuition. This dominant function guides the way INTJs make sense of things and explore information in their own minds. Using Intoverted Intuition, the INTJ contemplates connections and make sense of patterns. The reflect on their intepretations to develop insight and understanding and to create a clear vision for the future.

The auxiliary function for INTJs is Extraverted Thinking. This mental function supports their dominant Introverted Intuition to help them evaluate information and options in the world around them. When using Extraverted Thinking, the INTJ seeks to order their environment to bring logic to systems and processes. They analyze the options objectively and communicate ideas clearly.

The tertiary Feeling function is less developed for most INTJs, especially early in life. When this function is not well developed, INTJs may have trouble tuning into values and considering the impact of decisions on people.

The inferior function for INTJs, or that function which is least likely to be conscious and well developed, is Extraverted Sensing. When this function is not developed, INTJs may ignore the importance of details in their environment, and may overlook aspects of current reality which conflict with their vision.

INTJ in the Population

INTJ is the third rarest type in the population, and the rarest type among women (with ENTJ). INTJs make up:

  • 2% of the general population
  • 3% of men
  • 1% of women
Famous INTJs

Famous INTJs include Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Bill Gates, Dwight Eisenhower, Alan Greenspan, Ulysses S. Grant, Stephen Hawking, John Maynard Keynes, Ayn Rand, Isaac Asimov, Lewis Carroll, Cormac McCarthy, and Sir Isaac Newton.

For more information: Famous INTJs
INTJ at Work

At work, the INTJ excels at creating and implementing innovative solutions to analytical problems. They naturally see possibilities for improvement within complex systems and are organized and determined in implementing their ideas for change.

INTJs are comfortable with abstraction and theory but gain the most satisfaction from turning their ideas into reality. They often enjoy working independently or with a small team, taking measured, strategic steps to implement change.

INTJs enjoy working with logical systems that they can understand in depth. They enjoy the challenge of comprehending complex ideas, and want to understand how they can improve the way things work.

The ideal work environment for an INTJ is logical, efficient, structured, and analytical, with colleagues that are competent, intelligent, and productive. The ideal job for a Mastermind allows them to use their analytical skills to problem-solve in a challenging environment, and to take responsibility for implementing their ideas to create efficient, innovative systems.

Comments

Change your crowd. Smart

Change your crowd. Smart women like smart men. It can take time to find and culture such but seek the groups that do. Do what you love and you'll meet others the same...

sweet, i've always wondered

sweet, i've always wondered what was wrong with me - or the world - since i can't seem to make friends and prefer solitude. the analysis is in general quite accurate and helpful. but the joblist is a disaster - can't stand working under any authoritative institutions, even innovative high-tech companies. Computer programing, engineering, analyst are all too rigid. Need something even more creative and flexible such as philosopher, psychologist, linguists, designer, sound engineering etc., which also needs an analytical mind & innovative solution. just my personal point of view.

Yes, thank you. I totally

Yes, thank you. I totally agree that the job list is not in my field of interest at all. The one's you have proposed are much more to my liking.

Also completely agree with

Also completely agree with this statement. I need to work in COMPLETE solitude without deadlines. The INTJ mind wants things to be worked out correctly, however long it takes. Someone breathing down my neck telling me when and how to do something elicits a response like, "Well, then just do it yourself. Because, working like this, I won't be able to do it well. What's the point?"
I have only one female friend who doesn't bug the hell out of me. For awhile I was wondering if I should go into construction or welding because I absolutely loathe being around women. I mean, I loathe being around people, but especially women.
It really is a shame that there are no "wise man in the mountain" jobs around...

Personality types are very

Personality types are very general. I agree that philosophy and psychology are nice job choices but most people gravitate toward job security and money. There's no money in philosophy unless you teach and there's only good money in psychology if you get your doctorate.

I feel like a modern version

I feel like a modern version of Sherlock Holmes and I'm a loner. I enjoy doing things rather than talking about them. I like observing everything from a completely logical standpoint. I'm very punctual, organized and hard-working and I expect the other people to be like that, but more often than not this expectation is not satisfied. I can't stand overly emotional people, but this in fact says that I can't stand lots and lots of people. As said at the beginning I'm not much of a talker. At least about trivial, daily, mundane things such as the current weather condition, "who did what at the weekend with whom" and all these professional sports/celebrities stuff etc. I mainly like talking about number theory and discrete mathematics(I'm a mathematics Ph.D student), classical movies, chess, great white sharks, animal rights movement, psychology etc. but even while I'm talking about these things, I'm concise and to the point. I hate when the talk/speech becomes repetitive and filled with unnecessary details. I also dislike the fact that gaps or silences in a talk are considered weird and uncomfortable. And in general I prefer writing and I think I'm quite good at expressing my thoughts.

Anyway, almost all the time i have felt like an alien in this world. Even sometimes among the other introverts. I sometimes think maybe my existence is some kind of mistake, in a both positive and negative way. Occasionally I feel depressed and this has become more frequent in the recent months. Sometimes I think about ending my life but then i consider all the unfinished projects/unrealized dreams of mine and give up this idea.

I wish good luck to all the fellow INTJ people out there in their life journey.

I'm an INTJ female so I

I'm an INTJ female so I understand your frustrations. I felt compelled to respond because you mentioned the possibility of ending your life. Coming from you, someone who values precise language and rationality,I can't brush aside those words as solely an emotional and trivial outburst.

Please get help if your depression has you thinking this way. Please.

I can't get over the fact

I can't get over the fact that every sentence you said from being a modern version of Sherlock Holmes to ending your own life exactly depicts my outlook in life. I thought I was the only ridiculous being in the world who would be depressed and think of suicide but then I'd remember all my deadlines and list of things to do so I just decide to "die another day". However, I'm always engaged in self-initiated activities so it never comes. And the reason why I'm always engaged in activities is because I am frequently bored and I thirst for problems and challenges or basically anything that would keep my mind churning.

I thought I was so weird and alone in a pool of people but now I feel 'categorized', so to speak, and finally the universe is in order again (figuratively speaking, of course, because the universe is always in a state of entropy).

The physical universe

The physical universe certainly has entropy but if it was only entropy, there would be nothing here. The universe is a rich tapestry of both creation and destruction. When we introduce order and creativity, we create something that lasts, that resists entropy.

We are the Master Builders. We feel bummed when we're not. Find a project - even as a hobby - that enlivens your passion. Doesn't have to be world changing, just important to you. Don't worry about what others think. INTJ's are often seen as eccentrics. Writers, bloggers, builders of new energy devices, designers, cartoonists, scientists, we are a multi-talented lot, hard to categorize. This also means it takes time for us to understand ourselves and find our path.

Many, I think are late bloomers rather than precocious. Give yourself time to flower. I struggled for awhile but have since revolutionized 2 industries. Now I live the life I've wanted but it took time to discover just what that was. IN and TJ are paradoxes together but form a richness that you'll come to love.

like the other two this is a

like the other two this is a response of relevance and concern. in one hand you have disproved us being robots(i herd cyborg somewhere lol). i recently got over my hump of depression (somewhat) the friends i had turned there backs on me at a pivotal time in my life leaving me hopeless. i had it all figured out, step 1- tax return, 2- unregistered firearm, 3- arrangement of possession and finances, and 4- final resting spot. i even went as far to think of giving people there last goodbys via facebook but apprehension would be immanent. luckily when the check came i had stopped hanging out with my former acquaintances and to be quite frank after i quit smoking pot and drinking i began to regulate myself again. I'm glad to hear your too busy to end it, and wish you the best of luck through this temp possession of life.:)

Dont give up on life. I am a

Dont give up on life. I am a INJT and I never realized "why I am this way". I have been told thati am cold, too serious etc. even though I am INJT I am Christian and I lenjoy reading the word, dissecting it and applying it to my life to better myself and to possibly help others ( cause if I'm going to work with you, we need to be on the same page ; ) ) we are ALL created for a reason and somewhere our personality fits in perfect for different situations. Keep your head up I know the lonely world of the INJT, but keep continuing your quest for life. Life is precious. God Bless!!

c'mon man don't die just

c'mon man don't die just because you're alone and often feel depressed..the world does not belong to them who are stupid enough to ignore them..it includes yourself..you must tame it..seek the god when you feel weak.. we are considered to change it the way we want..and we have that capability..i feel most of the time the same way but i always can to do what i want to do
ignoring if it is right or not..if it's not i could have always hide them at least not to be known by others..and you may want a partner to talk to y' know..

Spot on with the way I feel.

Spot on with the way I feel. Namely, the thoughts about being an alien in this world, and those of leaving it.

It was just a week ago I was having a rare, extra-deep discussion with a longtime friend in which I told her I feel so out of place that I may have been put on the wrong planet.

In regards to suicide, I'm personally not sure I could ever go through with it, either. I'm not sure I would have the guts to do it, nor would I be able to deal with everyone's "feelings" should I fail haha. Ahem. Depression is something I've suffered with my entire life and not only do I explain to others that I feel dead inside, I've been known to say that if my next 30 years are anything like my first, I'd rather just cash out right now. Understandably, that's hard for a lot of people to hear!

I don't ever comment on public forums like this but since your story sounds so similar to mine, I just felt compelled to say something. I obviously don't know you, but I know your struggle, and I care about what happens to you.

Ditto in regards to best of luck to you, other INTJ's, and basically everyone!

You're not alone.

You're not alone.

I totally feel the same way.

I totally feel the same way. Maybe my existence was some kind of mistake. The world is so boring and predictable. Social convention annoy me. People say the things they are expected to say at the times they are expected to say them.

Another INTJ female here, and

Another INTJ female here, and perhaps more rare as an Orthodox Christian, after much historical research into the Christian Faith. If it were not for the experiential side of Orthodoxy via the sacraments, I would probably be agnostic. I have had an interest in history and politics since high school, and science since I was 3 years old when my dad demonstrated eclipses with a pink ball, tennis ball and our living room lamp, sans the shade. I have studied computer programming at the suggestion of a boss, after I was showing him all the flaws the that IT guys overlooked. I considered becoming a lawyer in high school, but would have preferred in the research side, and perhaps not the courtroom side. I have studied many creative things, but was often torn by the practicality of the career. Right now, I am a cosmetology instructor for a vocational college.

Intj female. I plan to be a

Intj female. I plan to be a journalist and I think it fits my personality. Should be on the list.

So very glad to have read

So very glad to have read this...I'm over 60 and just now am realizing my "type"..always knew that I was different and could not fit in...now it all makes sense... thanks for a great article! wish I could have known this 40 years ago...still--so very good to know...thanks

I am a female INTJ. A friend

I am a female INTJ. A friend introduced me to all of these studies and sites just yesterday and I have been reading everything I can find on the subject and it is so interesting! I am a Christian, straight down the middle in Calvinistic and Armenianism theology. That's what I have found to be most logical, and what I read in the Bible. I have done lots of research and inquired as to many opinions. I had a 4.0 all through high school and I studied computers (Web Design) in College. I decided that instructing and cultivating young minds was a much more useful and rewarding career choice, so I switched to Child Development by my second semester. I have never dated because my list of requirements has never even close to been met. My brother always told me that I had affection issues because I hardly ever enjoyed cuddling when I was younger and I never wanted a long hug, and rarely saw the need to hug at all. I do find it majorly difficult to understand most outbursts of rash emotions, most often in women. That does not, however stop me from having female friends. I do find that in most, if not all cases I am more of a friend to them than they are to me. I have always had many friends and place great importance on maintaining friendships, even over long periods of not speaking. I see a great need to love and cherish other humans and show them through quality time and listening that they are important. I am a terrible shoulder to cry on, however and I imagine it would be quite awkward for the tearful party... I think that I do have heart problems(I haven't gotten it checked out yet)... So I find it interesting that we are least likely to have heart problems. I am not easily excitable and tend to show very little emotions, I realize a need to work on that for other's sake. (Receiving gifts has always been tough!) I have absolutely no problem with confrontation, in any situation/relationship, boss, friend, teacher, etc.
Anyways, as I am sure you can tell, I could go on and on. I have found all of this to be such intriguing information and I have so enjoyed reading all about it and seeing what other INTJ's think. Thanks for the post!

i guess as INTJ being.. a

i guess as INTJ being.. a direction is normally a priority. without that INTJ seems lost. And since it's mastermind, it thinks more than anybody else thus more ideas in result. However, ideas are different from daydreaming. Because INTJ is able to convert the ideas to reality implying their rational, practical and logical thinking. Thus, i guess when INTJ is looking into career aspects.., what's suitable might be those that requires flexibility, creativity, independent skills.
i'm one INTJ here. I talk less but think alot. And somehow it helps or works in the course that i'm currently studying.. industrial design. It allows me to think if ideas work, and this actually trains me up in my thinking pattern, problem solving and also activate my creativity and sensitivity.. Although it's tiring to think of ideas and test if they work.. but it's fulfilling if the ideas turn out successful, it will be a great satisfaction. there's nothing that INTJ can't make out. Hence, engineering is also possible. Engineering is broad and allows space for INTJ to learn continuously, just like design.. trade of all jobs. But still, I must say.. it has got to depend on one's interest because only with interest the career is able to bring up that person to a higher level. Speaking with honesty- 'hardykid'

I am also in that 1

I am also in that 1 percentile of woman who test INTJ. I am a Christian. Now I know why I love science and math. I really care about people but I have always loved animals more than I love people. I think it is because they donot talk. I liked taking the test. They are like taking surveys, fun!

Re: "because animals do not

Re: "because animals do not talk"
I am so with you there. Give me a quite afternoon with my kitties any day!

I'm an INTJ male. Took the

I'm an INTJ male. Took the test in 2005 when I went to a career pshycologist; I was 16 then. I'm a devout Christian. I love these discussions on personality types; it's good to see all the different perspectives people have about personalities. I don't like reading that much. Guess cause there isn't always good stuff to read and when I read something my intuition runs off in a thousand directions and it frustrates me taking so long to finish a good read. I have forced myself to develop my social skills as I see a need for such in the future. I love to sometimes talk to strangers in public places just to balance my seriousness with some impulsiveness. Strange that after I learned about my type and I talked to my friends bout it, their tests showed that they all are intuitives, ENTJ, ENFP, ENTP, INTP, INFJ and INFP. Birds of a feather flock together I guess. I've since learned to tollerate everyone paying attention to their personality type. For someone like me with no natural feeling towards people this MBTI surely works!

Now I know why I can relate

Now I know why I can relate to all mastermind villains who carefully plan out brilliant courses of actions to a goal unmatched by others, just to have it smashed by a foolish hardheaded moral preaching hero. >:|

That has to be one of the

That has to be one of the best INTJ quotes I've ever heard! :)

Haha, cheers. That reply made

Haha, cheers. That reply made it worth to register a username. Ever since I came into more contact with this site I've been discussing things at an INTJ forum where I feel that I am among equals and likeminded individuals. So I thank you for the indirect guidance this site has provided me.

Also it further explains these thoughts about eternal life through cloning and brain swapping I've had, renewing the brain with the help of stemcell research... but as always, there are certain... morals and religions that would be ready to stand in my way. So I settled for a computer animation career rather than biomedicine early on. If I can't have eternal life in real life, I shall achieve it in my fictive worlds!

interesting idea.... im

interesting idea.... im thinking of going into a biology or psychology feild, and ive sometimes thought about possible immortality. for now, however, i guess im trying to make myself immortal via memory. i think we only truly die when people forget who we are, and im pretty sure noone will ever forget me.....at least at this school ;P

Yes! Especially in Disney

Yes! Especially in Disney movies....the villains have everyone in the palm of their hand. Their plans are well thought out and well executed. I secretly cheered for them because I knew they were brilliant but then always....they laugh a little too long, or explain a little too much and the damn hero comes and miraculously saves the day. Nonsense.

Agreed 100% I have always

Agreed 100% I have always wanted the bad guy to win, he is so often smarter than the hero and therefor deserves it.

Like many of the others

Like many of the others making comments im one of the lonley people where I live among people of my age, i have friends but i dont consider them interesting because they wont litsen to me and they only keep talking about stuff im not interested in but i still litsen to them.
Sadly not the other way around again.

I'm 13 and took the test and

I'm 13 and took the test and this is my personality. I always considered myself different from others, although i have friends, they don't understand me. I find this really cool and i would love to have a friend who has this personality type :).

Im exactally the same- 13 yrs

Im exactally the same- 13 yrs old i have friends but they dont understand me-even my sister ( who is the closest person in the world to me) dosnt get me and often hurts me with out knowing it then i dont know how to tell her about it and fix the relationship
Id love to have an INTJ friend even to just see how they overcome problems like communicating emotions with others

wow, i knew i was somehow

wow, i knew i was somehow different than my friends,i always feel like listening to my friends,while not really enjoying their talks. except when i met someone almost like me, whom i can talk my ideas with.I feel more confident knowing myself, specially that im an intj, this personality test gave me more ideas in life, i find being an intj cool :) coz we think differently, critically, deeply, and systematically than others. I wonder how it feels like having a lifetime friend or companion as an intj, wouldnt it be fun? talking all your ideas out, and having someone listen and interest with it.anyway, since im in phils, somehow, i manage to become more social, but still. most of the time i'd rather be alone.Oh and my gf is an ENFJ, i wonder if were gonna be confertable, but weve been together almost a year now.. Thanks to this personality test, i find my life more interesting

This is all very interesting.

This is all very interesting. I have ALWAYS been the odd person in the room, I'm currently a scientist but in the past have been a model which means i stand out visually which i hate most of the time, then when someone talks to me i have this atypical personality which rarely is accepted with enthusiasm. I get SO sick and tired of being different, which of course other people won't understand as they are trying to set themselves apart or just assume (if you were to reveal how you feel) that you are being narcissistic. it feels like I just cant win. I inevitably end up with low IQ morons for supervisors. Even when i explain why they are doing something wrong.....as gently as i can, they still cant grasp the concept. I have to break everything into tiny pieces, and literally draw them a visual so that they can understand. personal relationships stink as well as men cant cope with someone who is mentally light years ahead of them, and i just cant be bothered to explain anything as i feel that if they cant comprehend what i'm saying, we probably shouldn't be together anyway. the one chap i have found who is smarter,faster, etc also has even less emotion than i do which of course drives me nuts. I love him very much however find the whole back and forth nature of our relationship exhausting. why cant he just see the logical conclusion is for us to spend the rest of our lives together and just get on with it. lol. Again, i cant win. I know i need friends but find keeping them a massive effort as i would much rather be alone and read a book or engage in a myriad of things i like to do....alone. Good grief i hate being weird. sorry for the rant, but this is anonymous and therefore i can do what i want. yippi!!

Your comments struck a real

Your comments struck a real chord with me. I don't suffer fools gladly. And being alone is excellent. However, when I made a major move after college, I found I did need a few close friends. And I'm with you on the exhausting nature of most 'friends'- they just don't seem to reciprocate. At any rate I thought I might share my situation where it is not like yours. The man I made the relocation with is my ex: a high scoring ISTJ. Most of the INTJ men I meet, and the aforementioned ISTJ, have deep interests and are very intellectual and knowledgeable about those interests. The rub: they generally are not the same areas I'm interested in. So I decided to try something a little different.
Where I found success with a male partner was unexpected, and outside of my logical predictions. My guy is a cross between an ESTP and ESFP. We get along well because he is logical and very grounded. And, since he is secure in who he is, when I am intellectual or planning for the future, he just takes advantage of it, since that isn't his primary interest area. And he does many things that I am just not very good at; entertaining, and social networking are a natural for him. For us it is about the balancing of strengths against weaknesses, which we are able to maximize because of other shared traits: logic, solid common sense, and a desire to learn and work with our hands, by doing.
I didn't take your comment as a rant (because mine would qualify also). Best of luck and hang in there!

Oh, I am an INTJ woman and it

Oh, I am an INTJ woman and it is men that I have a problem with - most of them don't like that I actually have an opinion and am not afraid to express it. Women are much more accommodating of me.

I am INTJ male and I have a

I am INTJ male and I have a friend similar to you except she is extraverted. I respect her opinions, but the fact that you take a stand doesn't justify the validity of the opinion and shouldn't result in a sense of pride. Some people go by principles and some by social norms and some by pure logic. Many people take that for granted and become offended when they are rejected for it. Thats what patience and perseverance are for. Stop complaining.

I am in INTJ auditor.

I am in INTJ auditor. Auditing is about checklists, programs that other people thought up, and a myriad of micromanagers at every turn. Inefficient steps and other details that I really don't care about. I am moving on to become a systems analyst. I was good at that and worked with people who understand how my brain works.

I thought I wanted to be in charge and manage a bunch of people but really I just want to manage systems and build things that do not exist. I am tired of looking at last year's financial statements.

I am not sure of what personality type my husband is but we have interesting conversations, we both love books and hate TV because it is a waste of time.

I often find myself predicting things ahead of time and having to constantly walk people step-by-step through how I arrive at my conclusions. It can be irritating because it seems clear to me and quite obvious what will happen based on pure logic but other people can't see it. This is especially true regarding economic matters.

Funny enough though, I have developed enough people skills to allow me to connect with people based on my understanding of them. I take interest in other people and try to build on what I can understand about them, much like a politician. I don't mind working around others but I am still a loner. I don't spend my personal time with a whole lot of people and only have two good friends who are nothing like me at all but I've known them my whole life.

Good forum, glad there are others out there like myself.

I felt that I had to reply to

I felt that I had to reply to this, as right at this minute I'm looking at a set of financial statements! I'm an INTJ too, working as an auditor for 9 months as part of my degree. I also find the work inefficient, bureaucratic and ultimately unfulfilling. Your comment was interesting to me, it's reassuring to know that other INTJs have felt the same way about auditing. I'm not sure what I want to do after my internship has ended, but it will hopefully be something rewarding and more relevant to my personality type.

I am a female. I am an

I am a female.
I am an INTJ.
I am the 1%.

lol

lol

That's Funny!

That's Funny!

INTJ - Yep, that's me. I work

INTJ - Yep, that's me. I work at a nuclear power station as a Health Physicist, with an MBA.
Living life inside my head.
What a dork.

Oh my gosh!....Hello me! I

Oh my gosh!....Hello me! I finally understand myself even if nobody else does. I am a female INTJ and I can't agree more with everyone's comments! I can completely relate to the problem with female friends...I find their topics of discussion extremely dull yet I cant stop watching them act and react to each other! They seem to have endless conversations for hours without any real purpose to the conversation but for having a converstion. Engin I undersatnd your point with the unfinished business and projects and have often felt the same way. One can't just leave things hanging! My irritability with lazyness and so-so work by my colleagues and staff makes more sense now. I am, according to the profile, in the right career but I think I'm in the wrong job
(lawyer). There is absolutely no structre and it hightens my stress levels as well as my frustration with having to see agood system not implimented and the results following from that.

Finally...we (INTJ) are not alone - as a group of people that is - in our personalities we will always be on the outside!How cool is that?

INTJ female - I'm pretty

INTJ female - I'm pretty young, (only 15) but I've taken multiple tests (very different tests) and gotten INTJ, and it describes me pretty well. However I don't find it that hard to make relationships with other people/interact with friends. Also, I am really creative, which kind of doesn't fit with the INTJ type - music is a huge passion of mine, and I have been composing since I was in 3rd grade.

It's weird, because my dad also took a test, and he is an INTJ too, which I guess is rare to have two in the same house.

INTJ's are typically

INTJ's are typically multi-talented. That can mean creative things like music and art too. It sometimes makes it harder to choose a profession as the best choice is not obvious...

It can also be a challenge as there is only time to culture some of it.

Yes, I too am an INTJ...we

Yes, I too am an INTJ...we should celebrate the rewards of alienation and dis-association. Was a criminal lawyer. Now moving to management of a fishing company. By the way, many INTJs have massive artistic talents and according to Don Riso correlate with Enneagram Type 4 - they are imaginative AND reliable. Not your stereotypical artistic "flakes" in other words.

I'm an Enneagram 9, also very

I'm an Enneagram 9, also very INTJ-like. ;-)

Great site. The information

Great site. The information was right on point, at least for the INTJ. I have read many comments on this thread and must say that I, at least in part, understand all of them. It is difficult to find your place in a society that values some of the extreme opposites of your personality type. However I am finding that, when put in the right place, this personality is very valuable. And for what it's worth, I am a female INTJ as well and I have never in my life had a close girl friend.

I have had only two real

I have had only two real friends, but many acquaintances and others who consider me a friend. I just lost one of those friends due to emotions on her part - she sees me as self-absorbed and insensitive - and hasn't come around yet. I'm not so bothered about it, as I still have at least one good friend. I've been losing friends and acquaintances left and right due to lack of interesting conversation and the subsequent feelings on their parts. Tis a fairly lonely (but satisfying) life.

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