INTJ
INTJs have a thirst for knowledge and a passion for improvement. Constantly working to better themselves, they are often perfectionists. INTJs are also focused on finding ways to improve processes, always open to possibilities and new ideas. They enjoy taking the time to truly understand ideas or systems, and using their analytical skills to solve complex problems. INTJs often have a broad vision for what is best for an organization, and are driven to implement these ideas.
Although quite creative and open to new ideas, INTJs often process information internally, sharing their inner thoughts only with those they trust. Without being able to observe the INTJs consideration of different ideas and theories, some may view their clearly stated opinions and decisive action as stubbornness. The typical INTJ, however, is always willing to consider other points of view and information and change their mind, when warranted.
INTJs prefer structure and order, and expect others to follow the rules and procedures. Once committed, INTJs go to great lengths to fulfill their responsibilities and typically can be trusted to get the job done. Independent and forward-thinking, INTJs tend to be visionaries and are often found in leadership positions where they can apply their well-developed organizational skills to systems and people. Typically confident in their abilities and their insights, INTJs often have a unique ability to clearly and concisely express their vision and goals.
INTJ Type Dynamics
The core of the INTJ personality type is Introverted Intuition. This dominant function guides the way INTJs make sense of things and explore information in their own minds. Using Intoverted Intuition, the INTJ contemplates connections and make sense of patterns. The reflect on their intepretations to develop insight and understanding and to create a clear vision for the future.
The auxiliary function for INTJs is Extraverted Thinking. This mental function supports their dominant Introverted Intuition to help them evaluate information and options in the world around them. When using Extraverted Thinking, the INTJ seeks to order their environment to bring logic to systems and processes. They analyze the options objectively and communicate ideas clearly.
The tertiary Feeling function is less developed for most INTJs, especially early in life. When this function is not well developed, INTJs may have trouble tuning into values and considering the impact of decisions on people.
The inferior function for INTJs, or that function which is least likely to be conscious and well developed, is Extraverted Sensing. When this function is not developed, INTJs may ignore the importance of details in their environment, and may overlook aspects of current reality which conflict with their vision.
INTJ in the Population
INTJ is the third rarest type in the population, and the rarest type among women (with ENTJ). INTJs make up:
- 2% of the general population
- 3% of men
- 1% of women
Famous INTJs
Famous INTJs include Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Bill Gates, Dwight Eisenhower, Alan Greenspan, Ulysses S. Grant, Stephen Hawking, John Maynard Keynes, Ayn Rand, Isaac Asimov, Lewis Carroll, Cormac McCarthy, and Sir Isaac Newton.
INTJ at Work
At work, the INTJ excels at creating and implementing innovative solutions to analytical problems. They naturally see possibilities for improvement within complex systems and are organized and determined in implementing their ideas for change.
INTJs are comfortable with abstraction and theory but gain the most satisfaction from turning their ideas into reality. They often enjoy working independently or with a small team, taking measured, strategic steps to implement change.
INTJs enjoy working with logical systems that they can understand in depth. They enjoy the challenge of comprehending complex ideas, and want to understand how they can improve the way things work.
The ideal work environment for an INTJ is logical, efficient, structured, and analytical, with colleagues that are competent, intelligent, and productive. The ideal job for a Mastermind allows them to use their analytical skills to problem-solve in a challenging environment, and to take responsibility for implementing their ideas to create efficient, innovative systems.
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Comments
I dislike stereotypes. I am
I dislike stereotypes. I am an INTJ female.
My journey to become a homemaker was in fact a bit of personal crisis. When my oldest was born, I felt my attention divided. At work, I felt guilty about not caring for my child, at home I felt like a slacker having to rush home to the baby-sitter. This tug-of-war and lack of balance felt like failure. I felt like a half-assed mom, and half-assed employee. When my youngest was born three years later, we decided that I would come home. Though I initially freaked out trying to figure out how to fill a schedule, I discovered a world that was once foreign to me. Through homemaking, I was given the opportunity to experience a childhood that I had missed out on. Now, the difference between me and most moms who took their children to sports, is that I participated and not just watched. I helped my children practice their karate, encouraging them to pay attention to form and technique, and I learned to figure skate right alongside them. Now that they are getting older and more independent, I have begun preparing and working towards my own personal goals again. INTJs love goals.
The road to becoming whole should not be limited to a stereotype. Btw, in many ways my early years as a homemaker, participating in play dates, sports and other homemaking rituals with my children, provided the opportunity to develop skills and cognitive functions that may have remained neglected if I had continued on the more stereotypical INTJ path. I still do not have a large number of female friends, but I am very close to the few, quality not quantity is the lesson I teach my own daughter.
I disagree strongly with your
I disagree strongly with your post. I'm INTJ and female and maybe this is how your life works for you, but don't put it up there like it's the way things are. In fact I'd be willing to bet you're mistyped because of how strongly you believe 'we know our place is with the kids, ensuring the continuation of our species. Our role is to conceive, birth, and RAISE the next generation of scientists'. You also claimed that you are 'highly emotional, and highly romantic'. That says Si Fe to me, not Ni Te. I suggest you fill out a forum questionnaire and get the online experts to discuss your functions with you.
A: Women do not have a place. Neither do men. You do what you do and screw the standard. If you could discover the cure for cancer, would you still believe your place was at home with the kids, raising the next generation of MEN who may or may not be able to match your potential scientific accomplishment? And if you're an INTJ are you really going to be fulfilled staying at home watching Barney with your three-year-old? Jesus Christ. That could possibly be the most boring future I could ever imagine for myself. Personally, I hate children and I think there are more than enough of them anyway; why would I need to procreate and 'raise the next generation of scientists'? There are plenty of candidates for that already. Plus, I could care less about the next generation...I'm not going to be here when they're doing their thing anyway.
B: INTJs are not emotional. This is not just a claim, it is reality. Most of the time I don't even think about the fact that I'm not having an emotional reaction, because emotion just isn't a part of my thought process. Logic comes first in every situation, and emotion is a standby tie-breaker. I analyze peoples' emotional reactions based on previous data collected from similar situations and possible causes of their emotional response. There is no feeling going on there. I don't care how they feel. I just need to understand them well enough to make them feel appreciated so they won't get in my way.
C: You have no proof that INTJs are smarter than Ps, Fs, or Ss. I accept that introverts are quieter than extroverts, but having any of those formerly listed functions does not automatically put a person at risk for stupidity. Ego is an issue for NT types but at least build a foundation for yours.
And frankly I am a bitch. I am sarcastic and painfully honest and I don't give a crap about others. I have very little patience for anything not on my own personal agenda. I am selfish and I run over other people's desires when I have a goal. That's just the way it is, and frankly, I'm proud of a lot of those traits, and I wouldn't bother telling you anything different. Please don't classify me as a touchy-feely gentle type just because you happen to be one.
Katelyn, what you describe
Katelyn, what you describe isn't INTJ, it's narcissism and/or egomania. There is INTJ in there, as well, but you seem to be using your personality type as a justification for your admittedly poor behavior.
Hey, I'm with you. I'm a
Hey, I'm with you. I'm a single, very well educated, mom. In the workplace, I've been called a bitch more times than I can count. I have an MBA and am very successful. I hold myself to that high standard. I'm proud of the traits that have gotten me where I am today. If I'd been the touchy-feely type, I'd have drowned in my own self pitying tears years ago.
I am a classic INTJ! I also, gauge people's reactions however do not care one wit about how they feel. Methodical in my dealings with others? Yes, to a "T". There is a goal to be obtained. The more difficult, intricate, puzzle, the better. And, the INTJ stare? If you don't have it, then you are most certainly not an INTJ. Believe me, it's in the look (only INTJ's can do it).
The INTJ stare is so true! I
The INTJ stare is so true! I find myself wearing shades more often, because it is my natural default face when I walk around my college campus and people consistently give me "wtf is wrong with her?" face! lol
As for finding it hard to make female friends, it took me some time, but I have a close knot group of girl friends now. The emotional stuff can give me a migraine sometimes, but I'm learning to deal with it.
God help me when I start pursuing serious relationships...
Katelyn, I agree with many of
Katelyn,
I agree with many of your points, just wanted to point out that many INTJ SAHM's are able to survive without contemplating suicide by finding something more important to do with their time than "watch Barney with their 3-year-olds." That does sound like a living hell. But fortunately, there's an internet, and there are books, which means an INTJ SAHM can streamline/optimize household functions, teach the children to manage minor issues themselves, and then enter the broader world via the internet, work from home, and do intellectually stimulating things beyond Barney.
Just because two INTJ's have the same personality type does not mean they have the same set of life experiences/ethical values. You may hate children, but that doesn't mean all INTJ women do, or that raising clear-thinking children who will help mankind and benefit the world is an unimportant job. Please don't attribute your b*tchiness solely to your personality type.
Haha, I'm seventeen year old
Haha, I'm seventeen year old guy, I'm taking English Literature as my major. I can't believe you're watching anime :) I love Bleach too (also still reading the manga), and Captain Mayuri Kurotsuchi is one of my favourite characters. He's brilliant, definitely, and purely INTJ. I have never thought if Mayuri was INTJ before reading your comment, but I always prefer Captain Retsu Unohana. And now I'm so happy i was decided to read your comment; I always think if Mayuri (which was an INTJ, just like us) would never reach the top, he's brilliant scientist, but he will never surpass Captain Unohana. Even though Captain Mayuri always "boasting" that he will defeat Unohana, but somehow, I believe he couldn't defeat her. Captain Unohana, I believe she was INFP (well, she is a healer after all) would never be surpassed by Mayuri because she has something else inside her, compassion? kindness? better personality? or because Captain Mayuri Kurotsuchi is ARROGANT? or maybe Captain Retsu Unohana just simply way smarter than the super genius Captain Kurotsuchi? Well, I don't know. Mayuri may be scientifically extraordinary gifted but he cannot defeat the calm, reserved,experienced Captain Unohana.. who is the best healer in that anime. Sorry if most of you don't understand.. but the Mayuri Kurotsuchi (you can google him and look for him in Bleach wikia) seems to represent us, INTJ...
I'd like to respond to this
I'd like to respond to this as an INTJ and as a mother.
I have been a stay at home mom on occasion, and I HATED it. I love my family; they are everything to me. But being a SAHM offered me no challenges. I had no process. I had no structure, deadlines, incentive, or motivation. Yeah, I did laundry and dishes in the most efficient way possible. I taught myself how to cook some delicious and some not so delicious things. I tested the time it would take me to pick my daughter up from school if I left at a specific minute on specific days.
And every day, I thought about getting a job so that I could take on some new challenges, work on my skills, and build a career. In fact, I started a business. I also worked doing various freelance projects for extra cash. I was EXCITED about developing new skills and putting these things on my resume.
Here's something you said that I agree with: "We have the brains that we know our place is with the kids, ensuring the continuation of our species. Our role is to conceive, birth, and RAISE the next generation of scientists." I don't think having kids is for everyone, but I have a clear goal for my children. I have a process. I analyze their future and the world that they live in and will live in. I attempt to guide them toward being hard workers and successful in whatever they choose. I teach them how to be efficient in while doing their homework. We explore the subjects they're studying together. It's a pleasure to learn, but it's an even greater pleasure to watch my babies learn!
You are falling into the trap that is propagated by misogynists: having a career means you don't care about your children. This is a fallacy. One has nothing to do with the other, and I would argue that they enhance each other. I work harder and smarter because I don't want to work 12 hour days and miss out on playing with my kids. My kids also give me a way to connect with my coworkers, whereas I wouldn't have much to talk about with them if I was single with no kids.
I think its unfortunate that
I think its unfortunate that being a SAHM offered you no challenges. When I stayed home with my kids, I became a self taught expert on things like breastfeeding and children's car seats (lots of practical biology, physics, etc to be learned) and upon returning to work, when I found that my former field was not willing to entertain hiring someone with a resume gap, I found a job in an entirely different field based on the knowledge I acquired while staying home.
Staying home was difficult for me due to my personality, but I've found that the child I stayed home with the longest is the most advanced in school I suspect because I was teaching her rather than some ESFJ or whatever. I don't think it is a woman's role to do any particular thing, but it is a fallacy to assume that someone who chooses to stay home with children is therefore not an INTJ.
You're pretty spot on as far
You're pretty spot on as far as I can tell.
"We're INTJs, we don't need a PHD to be brilliant."
Exactly. This is what my mother can't grasp with me. She says "You're so intelligent, you have the smarts to do anything, but you don't want to do anything." - Yep. I can do almost anything that I want to. I don't see the point in putting tons of effort into getting a different job. I have a good, easy, well-paying job that gives me copious free time to enjoy life. Yet it's somehow a bad thing that I don't desire to be in the office all day.
I find it very amusing to
I find it very amusing to watch all the badly developed INTJ's argue that you are F not T because you posses both and have developed one more than they have. Guess they just don't want to allow you into the club. Trust an INTJ to consider it highly unlikely that anyone else could be remotely like them, to desire to be unfamiliar and incommunicable.
Haha, I am INTJ, and a guy,
Haha, I am INTJ, and a guy, and I don't usually have a problem communication-wise with women...when I was little I thought they were easier to talk to because "boys are boring and kinda dumb" (boys I went to school with....opposite of "rational", I often thought THEY were the drama queens, LOL.) So actually I prefer to have women as friends usually, with guys it's just really awkward for me to have the same level of "intimacy" (as far as "talking" goes), but then it's just generally awkward, to talk about anything intellectual as it ends up being like we're getting off on each other's thought porn.. (so it's "intimate" anyways...haha.) but then w/o the intellect, I just can't relate to people most of the time! So yeah w/ men it can actually get more frustrating for me, it can be a little limiting having only females as close friends. But then too many guys turns into an overly cerebral sausagefest...in my mind, that's what it is, anyways.. ;)
My issue w/ women comes in when I (usually inadvertently, or b/c I tell myself it's just some dreamworld I'm living in) somehow get them more emotionally interested in me than I would have liked....recently (past year or so) someone from high school told me she had a crush on me. I had no idea LOL. It's almost some weird inversion of "nice guys finish(ing) last" where I guess I'm seen as "nice" b/c I'm honest (until it gets personal, then my honesty is insensitivity..haha...), b/c I "make sense" and seem to be self-aware (emotionally)...and finally b/c I'm not trying to get in their pants...oh and I also tend to be flirty w/ pretty much everyone...with women even if I don't wanna be w/ them physically..idk it's an emotional/"intuitive" thing...the communication is just very natural.
Not sure if there's a "type" that's involved here, I think I tend to prefer NTs but also NFs...generally I need to w/ people intellectually, then emotionally. Really they are kinda one in the same for me. If people come to me for advice and then diss me for being impartial/logical and not taking them into account, well that pisses me off, in the past I've been like "well don't come to me then." I can't do personal favoritism.... apparently I can very easily do personal "why do I even give people advice?! Bunch of drama queens!" criticisms though... :P
So I end up walking a fine line b/c usually women I get along with anyways are already intellectual types...if they are NFs they're still usually intellectual in that the "N" is the "sensible" bit and by the nature of who I connect with, they aren't off the deep end with the "F" (I.e. matured since high school :P) so it ends up working pretty nicely.
Until someone is equally a "bottler" (emotionally), or maybe even more so, and apparently I built up all this sexual/romantic tension of some sort that I was supposed to be aware of, b/c DUH I started the whole thing!! ("So then what about that time you were like...?" "Oh that..eh I just do that with people...") LOL...
Or maybe not even a bottler so much as an introvert... ugh the introversion part is also challenging, it makes me seem "deep" and kinda a challenge to figure out (I think I often seem to be "shy" and confident at the same time, or "sensitive" and kind of a jerk at the same time...or those are the mixed messages I've gotten anyways...) especially because I tend not to approach others very often, but then I don't seem aloof when I'm actually interacting with someone.
I end up feeling bad (about giving the wrong idea, I guess...lol) which is a vicious circle because when I feel bad I tend to get defensive and say things like, "if I wanted to sleep with you you would've known a long time ago by now!!" ..yeah not usually helpful haha.
Not sure whether it was a result of this or reinforced by it, I think through things before talking to women most of the time anymore (well, anyone, but more w/ women) because... well, "lust is not practical, it's a waste, and INTJs are not very fond of waste." I usually know right away if I'm interested in someone sexually or not...(but yet I continue to double-check myself in every scenario ;) ) because I actually have more lustful than love-based tendencies...to the point I can tell the difference rather easily. Honestly most of the time I can't see myself commiting very easily to an exclusive relationship. It's essentially that the only difference really between women I'm friends with and ones i'd want a relationship with...are just the physical attraction. It's either there or it isn't. It's the brains that are always around. Lol basically all my friends are thought porn companions. So to bring the sexual stuff into that...I usually get overwhelmed (i.e. by myself...with lust.. :P) and just avoid that "situation."
For something to be lust-based I'd have to have a good enough idea it's reciprocal, otherwise I just leave it alone, because my default is to assume women aren't openly "nice" (at least to me) because they want sex...especially if my own crap gets caught up in there (the sexual attraction is 'crap' so we're clear...lol) I'm even more likely to just leave it.
I've gone beyond threshold with emotionally dramatic people (gender doesn't really matter though), so I'm at a point where that's always going to outweigh any benefit I might get in pure hypotheticals from a lust/sex-based relationship.
...I guess I've proven my point about my thinking process...lmao.
Oh, I'm also a psych major. I love psychology but I think I've become to emotionally invested in school and need to do solely "real world" stuff for awhile before I can even proceed with academic work. It's made me too cerebral. I'm an info junkie but I'm the only one willing to intervene and rehabiliate myself...haha...anyways, ideally I want to go into like neuroscience or something. As far as all this stuff though I feel like I will die in grad school if there are too many women around, especially if I end up attracted to them!... haha I've already had this issue in undergrad (at a different uni. though) but...yeah... might have to re-think my whole "strategy" here if it starts to be self-destructive (to some extent I guess it already has...)
I concur with most of what
I concur with most of what you said, but INTJ is certainly not a more feminine type, quiet intellectualism is a very masculine trait. Women of this type have that extra brainpower, logic, loyalty, and depth that makes them far far better for INTJ men like myself who find the other types anywhere from adorably irritating to utterly intolerable. They display far more traditionally feminine tendencies while simultaneously displaying more actual mental equality than the loudmouths who just claim accolades they have not earned.
Also I have to say, lust is only a waste if it is not paired with loyal loving commitment, then it is a tonic.
My slight disagreements aside, the woman above sounds so much closer to what I have spent my life seeking than most women that it is a bit surprising, it is almost like listening to a female version of myself, which is really what I want the most.
What we need is a way to find others who first: have the personality type we desire, then who share our most important basic principles and tastes, then finding a good fit would not be so hard. Of course it is always much harder for the INTJ than any other type, we are the most rare people, and though it may not be "politically correct" (I couldn't care less), INTJ are the pinnacle of the elite mental types and the rightful rulers of humanity because we look at the big picture in a way other simply cannot. Of course we have great stress and hardships being what we are, but someone has to do it, and in this one instance, it is really accurate to say we were "born this way".
I just about wet myself
I just about wet myself laughing while reading this.
It is like somebody said "Let's list every thing an INTJ woman would run screaming from and pretend to believe that is what INTJ women want".
This is either a HUGE wish fulfilment fantasy on the part of some non-INTJ person, or a troll frantically fishing for a fight.
Sorry, can't fight with you. Too busy laughing.
I didn't agree with
I didn't agree with everything this person said either, but I agreed with a lot of it and I think your approach is exactly what gives us INTJs a bad name.
I love children although most annoy me greatly. This, I have found, is mostly due to their parent's idiocy in rearing them. I would definitely be a stay at home mom to raise my own given the chance because I view molding their minds and thereby influencing the future of our species as more important than anything else save being the person to cure cancer or something equitable. How else does one achieve immortality than through our children? How else does the essence of who we are, what we believe, our very thoughts live on in any meaningful way when we're gone? Who else will pass on our memory? Just because an INTJ finds value in something you don't, doesn't that thing has no value. It certainly doesn't give you the right to mock them or accuse them of being against type.
Most INTJs, like most people of every other type, are self centered and immature in that they have done very little work developing their tritary and inferior functions. Because they don't understand how this makes them a more well rounded and less selfish person (and yes, less of a b*tch in our case), they accuse those who have developed those functions of inauthenticity. Disliking children in general doesn't equal disliking your *own* children. I raised a nephew who I liked until his dysfunctional mother took over. He behaves much less dysfunctionally with me, but with her? He is a spoiled jerk. Nor does being unsuited to be a nanny equal being unsuited to be a SAHM. Again, I was very successful at being hands on with my nephew b/c of the level of my emotional investment. I'd probably be fired in a day as a nanny. If I didn't quit first.
Lots of people still think I'm mean or don't care about the feelings of others, unless they really know me. That's just the nature of the type. But that doesn't mean I have to actually be what they think I am. Nor do I have to be what you think I should in order to be an INTJ since you aren't the arbitrator of what that should look like. Thankfully.
I am an INTJ female. I
I am an INTJ female. I wouldn't say that being a SAHM makes me want to run screaming. I have problems with how she worded all her big rant, but I don't think being an INTJ precludes ever being a SAHM. Maybe this is a bad reason for wanting to raise kids, maybe not, but it's that INTJ drive of wanting to improve things and do it in a more efficient, "better system" way that makes me want to be SAHM eventually. My parents raised me well but there are things I would like to differently and there are other things I'd like to teach my kids tht I think society is failing at. I want to see how my influence as a parent will make them turn out. And part of how I view parenting is to have an attentive, full-time parent that puts effort into the raising of their kids. I'd probably have to be taking some sort of online class or learning some new hobby to keep me intellectually occupied as well and i would probably work outside the home again after they were in high school..but yes, I would be a SAHM.
Anyway...just saying, as a few others have, that there can be some aspects to being a SAHM that would be appealing based on INTJ tendencies.
(also, overjoyed to find that I am not alone in not really having female friends..I have very few that I enjoy. I strongly prefer male friendships. Less drama, better sense of humor, more rationality)
I don't agree with this. An
I don't agree with this. An INTJ woman does not prefer to be an at home house wife. You cannot say what people with one certain type of personality really want. I know I prefer [as an INTJ] to be caught up in work. I actually plan on being a Librarian, and will start work sometime this summer. The Librarian part is true. As for children, I prefer not to have any. I've raised enough children as a sister, aunt, and cousin to know what children are really like. I for one prefer work over house wife, and no children to children.
As for relationships, I prefer someone I can trust to someone I distrust. I would prefer history. If he/she has been very valuable as a person, or as a friend, even as an acquaintanceship then that is where my life will be. It isn't behind some idiot I barely know falling head over heals for me and claims to be in love. I know that I prefer a husband/wife who won't use me for sex, and knows my levels of self. He/She should know me from my outer friend self, to my inner fearful self, to what I'm like around him/her to what I'm like in general. His/Her level of competence should be very high. His/Her patience should be very high as well. Romance will fall into place when love is mixed in. Love can only come in when dedication is secured.
amen sister i am Intj and i
amen sister i am Intj and i feel exactly the same way
I like how many women have
I like how many women have commented here! While I agree that we don't need the classes or degrees, I doubt that we're mostly found at home. I don't like being broke, which is one very good reason to have a career. Have a sufficiently remunerative one, and you can hire someone to stay with your kids and teach them properly. I don't have the requisite skills to teach young children, I have different skills. If I were a parent, you bet your fanny I'd be hiring those skills, not subjecting my children to my inferior talents. I'm much better at (and much prefer) pharmaceutical research. So I'm not sure why you insist that we INTJs are to be found mainly at home. That seems just as silly as assuming they're mainly to be found in the lab. It doesn't have to be either/or, the world is both/and.
I am a female INTJ as well,
I am a female INTJ as well, it does create a rather unique niche to fit into... can't get along with most females, and a personality too aggressive for a lot of males. We don't need them :) we will go far on our own.
I agree...our personality can
I agree...our personality can be intimidating to the majority of men!!
They key is to find men who
They key is to find men who are egoists, and yet prefer to be surrounded by INTJ-type women. They're hard to find, but they embody that sort of leader personality. I've found a few men like that who respond to me well since they want that sort of women in their posse.
You have just summed up me in
You have just summed up me in just a few sentences. Do NOT get along with most women, never have. Always had more male friends than female. Loved being with my dad and brothers doing very non-traditional (at that time anyway) pasttimes. Loved my mom and sisters but would rather be with the boys any day.
Learning that this is my personality type has explained a lot of questions I have had in my head about why I am the way that I am! I am a true INTJ, everything about the personality type provides a window into who I am.
So glad that my job's training required me to take this test. It has provided very valuable information. It also explains my tendency toward being alone rather than involved. I've never had a problem walking away from a relationship that didn't provide what I felt was necessary and at this time am in the process of getting out of one that doesn't meet my criteria for life-long. Maybe none ever will I have always kinda turned men off by my attitude. Now I know why.
Another woman with INTJ.
Another woman with INTJ. Have had trouble remembering to pack my son's lunch for school, get him vaccinated as a baby, picking him up from day care on time. Felt very inadequate. Couldn't bond with other mothers and teachers. They seem to get scared with my matter-of-fact style. Fortunately, he grew up to be quite like me and understand. But I loved my job as a scientist. Can't wait to get up in the morning to work- if you can call it that. Papers come alive, excitement level orgasmic when new findings are found. Never felt orgasmic any other way. Involved in all the top career list recommended for this type. Thank you Jung,great personality analysis. I don't feel so weird.
I would agree with the
I would agree with the testing and not commiserating with all the emotional issues. However, I have found many females friends. Nonetheless, they are highly intelligent and not NEEDY.
Now to the romance section: Still researching this arena for myself. "In search of intelligent life ~ out in the Male Testosterone Online Venue with a Spock mindset"
Hobbies: Have two Arabian horses & ride endurance: Self taught gourmet cook: volunteer trainer of large dogs e.g. Rottweilers, Pit Bulls etc.
Profession: Was a corporate trouble shooter turned Author~non-fiction human interest biographical. INTJ!!
I totally agree with you,
I totally agree with you, especially in the female friends category. Makes sense now!
As an INTJ female, I
As an INTJ female, I understand your feelings well.
Not to worry dear. I am a
Not to worry dear. I am a female INTJ also. I am the most misunderstood person I know and have very few friends left too. Our strengths balance us and we have the ability to make up for the friends that we may lack. The best part is understanding ourselves enough to change the small part of us that stops us from seeking out the friends that understand us and accept what we are. Now there is a suitable challenge, you think?
Good Luck
I think it's helpful to know
I think it's helpful to know why. I would enjoy meeting other INTJ women, tho.
I'm an INTJ :)
I'm an INTJ :)
I am female and consistently
I am female and consistently test as a "crossover" - Type INTJ/INFJ. From my position the world is a strange place, in which I am a friend to many, yet have almost no real friends myself. Interesting...
Thank you for the site. Enjoyable and entertaining read.
I Will like a woman of the
I Will like a woman of the INTJ or INTP for a life relationship.
I wish I knew how to contact
I wish I knew how to contact you. With very minor changes, I can echo your avowal: From my position, the world is a strange place in that I am a friend to many yet have no real friend(s) myself.
While I am not a "crossover," my closest ratio (52%/48%) is my thinking/feeling. A strong-feeling INTJ is nothing short of a living nightmare.
After a lot of deep introspection, to process how two of the rarest types combine to describe me best,(realistic proof that I am indeed slightly more weighted towards INTJ than INFJ) I concluded that internally I am INTJ and externally I am INFJ. While I admit to having strong feelings, those are frequently held in check as they are analyzed internally before being exhibited/voiced externally. I am unquestionably ruled by thought, not by emotion.
I'm just like you, Shayla, in
I'm just like you, Shayla, in that regard.
For the last few years, I have been feeling totally bewildered, as it seems that as I've gotten older, I've become more misunderstood. This has caused me to frequently question whether or not, I've been experiencing some kind of personal digression. Each time, after thinking it through, I feel confident that I am not...and that it's more likely that most everybody else is.
As I get older, I do feel that I have a harder time communicating well with some of my long-time female friends.
I used to have no problem being compatible with almost everyone i came in contact with.
This website has helped fill in some of the blanks. Thank you!
It's worth noting that as we
It's worth noting that as we age, our scores tend to move closer to centre and be less distinct. (taught in official 6 hr MB test) That's been true for me, except on the N score. That may help INTJ's better handle feelings and not go Spock. ;-)
But it also means who we are evolves. That may move us apart from older friends. I've certainly seen that. If we're growing, we may outgrow...
I also test as a blend of
I also test as a blend of INFJ and INTJ. What are the primary differences in the two?
Would like to join a chat group online to chat with those interested in personality types. Any suggestions?
Yes! Try PersonalityCafe.com.
Yes! Try PersonalityCafe.com. It's a very lively discussion board all about personality types in action.
I test as a strong INTJ. I
I test as a strong INTJ. I am currently in seminary school and everyone was shocked when I tested as that. But reading it over it pretty much describes me.
I understand. Funny, I am
I understand. Funny, I am thinking of going to seminary school as well and I am a INTJ! Good for us!
More like, you two should
More like, you two should start using the 'T' in INTJ...
;-) I looked at an Interfaith
;-) I looked at an Interfaith seminary but it never happened. Good luck with your life-long study. ;-)
Dang, I guess I'm more rare
Dang, I guess I'm more rare than I thought. I'm an INTJ Schizoid who is an artist and is a Seventh-Day Adventist Christian.
same here
same here
i am yet another lonely,
i am yet another lonely, friendless, INTJ female :p
:( sorry. I'm in the same
:( sorry.
I'm in the same boat, though I do have the mirage of friendships with coworkers.
Try out the INTJ forums
Try out the INTJ forums :)
http://intjforum.com/index.php
Lol I understand where your
Lol I understand where your coming from! It makes me mad because the only women who are interested in me are the ones with self esteem issues. And guys always see me the same way, arrogant and unemotional. They think Im cocky, too serious, and non caring which I do not see. I just dont know how to be, or even see the point in trying to be, anything else than reserved and intellectual..It makes me uncomfortable and is exhausting to dumb myself down/pretend like I care about stupid things just to fit in with the crowd!
exactly the same. i always
exactly the same. i always criticize myself to the point of complete worthlessness. question: do any other INTJ people deal with depression? ive noticed a lot of intelligent people are depressed. cant say a lot about school, im only a sophmore in high school. usual story, straight A's, no friends lol
i came up intj in a couple
i came up intj in a couple tests and it describes me better than i thought it would, but was not the A student. i didn't feel the need to do much work unless i was genuinely interested within a subject. however at some points when i had to buckle down mostly junior/ senor year i surprised some teachers by exceeding there expectations of me. they thought i was just quiet and stupid or that's a self reflection, but non the less surprised them.
Man, I almost wan't to cry. I
Man, I almost wan't to cry. I find that people see me as quiet and serious. I always wondered why this is the way I am, and now I understand that I am a rare percent of people with this. I can relate to having not many friends, cause my when I am hanging out with people, the person I am with, his or her cell phone would almost be ringing off the hook and mine would be quiet. I am looking for a partner, but my checklist is too long, but on the other hand I am about to graduate cum laude, and about to pursue a B.A. degree. In high school I didn't try to hard. It was until I started trying in college, I found if I put in the effort I can do good. whew!
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